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.Blue Dwarf. 04-03-2015 09:09 PM

What's up with Bing?
 
Once upon a time, I hated Bing because it was just some worthless new search engine.
Then I decided it was okay, and even set it to my default. (well, my browser prompted me to at some point, and I said "Ok")

Recently though, it seems like it is absolute garbage.


Any time I search for anything, the results are all generally not exactly what I was looking for. Worse, many of them are those fake websites that just have phrases that are searched for so people go to them, and when they get there they can look at some nice ads, videos, and not much else. Certainly nothing useful.

Try searching the same exact thing in Google, and like magic it takes you exactly where you wanted to go.



When did Bing becomes so horrible?

Boneheads 04-03-2015 11:06 PM

Re: What's up with Bing?
 
I was under the impression it was always horrible. Hence it being inferior to Google.

.Blue Dwarf. 04-04-2015 01:54 AM

Re: What's up with Bing?
 
Well, yeah, it was always pretty bad, but it let me exchange points for prizes, so that made up for it. Plus my browser told me to use it, so whatever, I used it.

But now it's just sort of, you know, too bad.

Boneheads 04-04-2015 02:06 AM

Re: What's up with Bing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by .Blue Dwarf. (Post 348035)
my browser told me to use it

...which browser is that exactly?

.Blue Dwarf. 04-04-2015 03:09 AM

Re: What's up with Bing?
 
...




Internet Explorer.

Boneheads 04-04-2015 03:48 AM

Re: What's up with Bing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by .Blue Dwarf. (Post 348038)
Internet Explorer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by .Blue Dwarf. (Post 348038)
Internet Explorer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by .Blue Dwarf. (Post 348038)
Internet Explorer.

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Originally Posted by .Blue Dwarf. (Post 348038)
Internet Explorer.







why
Edit: WHY WOULD YOU EVEN EVER
Edit2: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

REACTOR 04-04-2015 06:07 PM

Re: What's up with Bing?
 
I wouldn't even use Internet Explorer, it has been notorious for security vulnerabilities. Firefox as well, I read on some Tech sites that certain image libraries used in some browsers execute maliciously crafted images as code.

I would suggest DuckDuckGo, along with installing WOT (Don't get it confused with wot.org, the proper site for that extension is mywot.com) for your browser.

Although WOT is limited as some sites have not been rated, it's sure a great help.

WIth Bing... Ehh, I have no opinions on it.

Megadog 04-04-2015 11:08 PM

Re: What's up with Bing?
 
Personally, I'd recommend Firefox or Chrome, with google as your search engine. Bing and IE are defaults because they wouldn't get used if they weren't. IIRC, Bing is Microsoft's attempt to make a search engine, and is in a similar state of disrepair as IE. (Get another browser BTW. IE is no longer supported, and will no longer be updated. It's dead in Microsoft's eyes.)

SpaceManiac 04-06-2015 12:17 PM

Re: What's up with Bing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Megadog (Post 348047)
(Get another browser BTW. IE is no longer supported, and will no longer be updated. It's dead in Microsoft's eyes.)

Internet Explorer isn't dead to Microsoft, and will almost certainly continue receiving support and security updates for at least a couple years. Yes, they are replacing it with a new product (Spartan) in Windows 10, but for less recent versions of Windows the support/update lifecycle is far from over.

Personally, I use Firefox and DDG, with the Ghostery and HTTPS Everywhere addons (also, Tree Style Tabs).

Megadog 04-06-2015 01:23 PM

Re: What's up with Bing?
 
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Originally Posted by SpaceManiac (Post 348079)
Internet Explorer isn't dead to Microsoft, and will almost certainly continue receiving support and security updates for at least a couple years. Yes, they are replacing it with a new product (Spartan) in Windows 10, but for less recent versions of Windows the support/update lifecycle is far from over.

I'd swear I read that it was no longer supported. If not, it's no worry, only change if you want to.

REACTOR 04-09-2015 02:53 AM

Re: What's up with Bing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kyle (Post 348107)
Google is way better by far. I heard yahoo gets their results from google now.:lol:

I heard that Google spies on people.

.Blue Dwarf. 04-09-2015 05:23 PM

Re: What's up with Bing?
 
That holds no relevance as to what gets better search results.

Google is king. All hail Google!

Boneheads 04-10-2015 04:13 PM

Re: What's up with Bing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by .Blue Dwarf. (Post 348136)
That holds no relevance as to what gets better search results.

Google is king. All hail Google!

why not queen

Except Google (among others) do, in fact, spy on you. I personally don't care much for that kind of privacy (of having your search keywords looked at by google), but I can definitely see why others would want that. Also, DuckDuckGo seems like a really good search engine. Never heard of it before.

.Blue Dwarf. 04-10-2015 09:02 PM

Re: What's up with Bing?
 
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Originally Posted by Boneheads (Post 348146)
Except Google (among others) do, in fact, spy on you..

Except nothing.

Does spying on me make the search results worse?

darkguyhades 04-10-2015 09:39 PM

Re: What's up with Bing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boneheads (Post 348146)
[SIZE="1"]Also, DuckDuckGo seems like a really good search engine. Never heard of it before.

DuckDuckGo is pretty good in terms of privacy, but it tends to give worse results than Google. The Firefox addon is really useful though.

SpaceManiac 04-10-2015 10:30 PM

Re: What's up with Bing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by darkguyhades (Post 348150)
DuckDuckGo is pretty good in terms of privacy, but it tends to give worse results than Google. The Firefox addon is really useful though.

I find that for programming-related topics, DuckDuckGo gives way better results than I was used to with Google before switching (though I'm not sure if this is still true) and generally has better integration with GitHub, StackExchange, and other third-party sites. It's also massively customizable, which is basically my definition of good software.

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Originally Posted by .Blue Dwarf. (Post 348149)
Does spying on me make the search results worse?

It depends on how you think about "worse". It means it's more likely to give you results that are similar to what you've looked at in the past. This is massively useful in some cases (e.g. if it figures out you're in some technical field and you don't have to include the name of that field in every search for eternity), but it's a problem if you're explicitly trying to find something that isn't aligned to you (e.g. researching a competing political belief) and the algorithm does its best to push it down. Also Google now has a record of your search habits and a bunch of facts about you derived from those habits that they could be sold/leaked/subpoenaed/stolen/NSAd to any of several parties you might not want having such records.

FlatOutLie 04-13-2015 09:05 AM

Re: What's up with Bing?
 
Bing was probably not getting enough ad revenue so they now get payed by redirecting people to malicious sites and infecting your computer with ad software. I think maybe this is what happened, anyways.

Safari has the #1 amount of chrome downloads out of any browser. Chrome is love chrom is life.

Oh also chrome has a widget store so theres a really good adblock on there thats virus free it installs as a toolbar sorta thing but doesnt take up half the screen just a little widget icon in the top right.

seamonkey 04-13-2015 12:49 PM

Re: What's up with Bing?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FlatOutLie (Post 348173)
Bing was probably not getting enough ad revenue so they now get payed by redirecting people to malicious sites and infecting your computer with ad software. I think maybe this is what happened, anyways.

So you are telling me Microsoft is making money by directing people to download malware?

HappyStikBeaver 04-13-2015 08:09 PM

I assumed Bing directed users to Microsoft's sponsors, or the sites that had payed a small fee. I found this though:
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Bing search results are more affected by poisoning than those of other search engines, according to a study by SophosLabs.

Search engine poisoning attacks are designed to skew results so that dodgy sites - anything from malware infected websites to payday loan sites - appear prominently in the index of sites related to popular search terms. In many cases the tactic is so successful that malware sites appear in the first page of results for popular search terms, in sometimes much higher than legitimate websites. More recently, miscreants have began trying to manipulate image search results.

.Blue Dwarf. 04-13-2015 10:52 PM

Re: What's up with Bing?
 
Well, that sounds about right.


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