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Old 03-22-2008, 05:22 PM   #381
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It's finally over! Everyone seems to be improving at mafia, from what I've seen. On to Mallfia!
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Old 03-22-2008, 05:30 PM   #382
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Now, I know I shouldn't be posting, as I didn't play in this game, but I'd just like to say: Well done, town!
BoB, you really are a great player. I mean, even though some of the time you're just pointing things out that should/could be 'obvious', you're coming up with good theories and getting involved in the game.

So yes, well done everyone - on to Mallfia!
Thanks, WW! I know sometimes I do post some pretty obvious things, but I think it's important that everyone knows exactly what I used to arrive at my conclusions. Even if something is obvious and everyone knows it, they might not know that that's what I'm basing some theory off of. That was a great game, PCR. Even though towards the end it was pretty easy to figure out who the zombies were, it was still quite entertaining. Could you perhaps give us a night-by-night summary of the actions that took place? I'd like to compare that to what I thought was going on during the game and see how close I was.
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Old 03-22-2008, 06:31 PM   #383
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Default Re: Mafia #B4: Spawn of the Dumb Mafia

I think this was oe of my Better games, well, until im converted, im HORRIABLE At being the Mafia!
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Old 03-22-2008, 11:29 PM   #384
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Hmmm, I have a problem with cult games. Not that it was unbalanced, neither did the problem actually arise in this game, but there's a moral dilemma with all forms of converting.

As soon as somebody gets converted, all the work that they have done will have been inverted. If somebody has been playing really good as a townie, presenting good ideas, then they get converted the night after... And all the work that they have done only helps them end up losing.

Coolguy's argument to that was that anything that helped the other team before they got converted might end up back in their own face. That wasn't explained very well so I present you Example #1: Bob, teh uber townie, does very townie-ish things, like lynching zombies, and helping old little ladies across the street. He gets converted, and all the effort he put in earlier goes against him in his new Win Condition. BUT, Coolguy's argument was that people would think he is more innocent, and thus less likely to get lynched. Example #2: Jim, the townie, plays quite scummily (is that even a word? And shouldn't zombie-y be more appropriate? Is that even a word?), like lynching townies, inadvertently helping zombies and not following Coolguy's vote around 100% (Stay Coolguy - Stay safe! This message brought to you by the Coolguy police). Jim gets converted, and his bad play actually helped him with his Win Condition. BUT, he is more likely to get lynched, thus hurting his chances of winning.

But does that really justify it? And plus, regardless of what side you're on, not being lynched helps anyway, so which side you get lynched ON doesn't really matter too much. Coolguy's point is more valid in Example #1, I think. Zombies want to get "not-lynched" more than townies want to get "not-lynched" (or exorcised, whatever). Whereas acting scummy and being lynched is going to hurt you equally, regardless of whether you're a townie or a mafia, so Coolguy's argument in Example #2 doewsn't hold much, if any, weight against. So, um, let's go to the next big paragraph.

And there's also the point that if one thinks they are going to be converted, and if they had a pro-town argument they could form, they could just not post it in the first place. Unless somebody is being blatantly zombie-ish, not putting an argument against someone isn't going to get you lynched (as long as this scummy person in question doesn't die and turn out a zombie), like with Wackiewatty in Roman Mafia, not even suspecting Atkins. Again, it's hard to if you're gonna get zombified without the majority of players knowing it as well, but somebody might just wait to post their argument to the next day, just in case.

The bottom line of all this? I forget. Yeah, this always happens when I type (except this time I know what I'm saying, I've just written so much I can't remember all of it and can't write an adequate summary).

And, uh, anyone got any braaaiiins I could borrow?
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Old 03-22-2008, 11:38 PM   #385
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Yay!!!!!!!!
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Old 03-23-2008, 04:36 AM   #386
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Thanks, WW! I know sometimes I do post some pretty obvious things, but I think it's important that everyone knows exactly what I used to arrive at my conclusions. Even if something is obvious and everyone knows it, they might not know that that's what I'm basing some theory off of. That was a great game, PCR. Even though towards the end it was pretty easy to figure out who the zombies were, it was still quite entertaining. Could you perhaps give us a night-by-night summary of the actions that took place? I'd like to compare that to what I thought was going on during the game and see how close I was.
The ironic thing I find is that sometimes people don't notice the things we see as 'obvious', so it definitely is important to post them.

Of course, I didn't focus on the actual game enough to make any comments on it - just individual players.
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Old 03-23-2008, 04:40 AM   #387
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Comment:frankly, i think the townies are getting better,and were lucky this time that the zombies were not so undead(in other words not pro mafia).

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Old 03-23-2008, 09:00 AM   #388
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Connor needs to post his sign-ups.
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Old 03-23-2008, 09:02 AM   #389
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And, uh, anyone got any braaaiiins I could borrow?
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Yeah, ask the doc. I've went through 2 spare brains already, and I'm still not a zombie.
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Old 03-24-2008, 12:07 PM   #390
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So, me excorsizing Sillyman was a pretty good idea?
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Old 03-24-2008, 12:51 PM   #391
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No, it was not.

EDIT: Well, it turned out to be a brilliant piece of play, but the reasoning at the time was silly. Had you known what you were doing, I would have given you an award.
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Old 03-24-2008, 01:03 PM   #392
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So, me excorsizing Sillyman was a pretty good idea?
I personally though that you were insane when you posted that, despite obvious evidence that someone else was a zombie.
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Old 03-24-2008, 05:00 PM   #393
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Yeah. If you and I both knew what you were doing, I wouldn't have gotten so angry. Still, congraturations!
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Old 03-25-2008, 01:52 AM   #394
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YAYAY!We won!
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