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Old 06-08-2014, 08:46 PM   #21
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I have a suspicion that this pole is slightly tilted toward Libertarian, but could just be me. http://www.isidewith.com/results/548853173

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Old 06-09-2014, 09:58 AM   #22
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hey let's go slightly off topic for juuuust a second:

so apparently somebody (you know who you are) does think that this:

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Should federal government limit funds to public schools that do not meet performance standards?
Has an answer that isn't 'no, don't be ridiculous'. How can you except sub-standard schools to improve if you take money away from them? You (hopefully) don't look at a building and say 'oh man it turns out this build doesn't meet the fire code, better spend less money making the building fire-safe', because that makes the problem worse. If a school is failing, and then you take away their funding, they have to make cuts. Which will probably reduce performance more, leading to more cuts until education rates plummet and it starts to seem like this was your intention from the start.


Also, it turns out I will totally judge people over their politically views, because I'm insufferable like that.

OT: Privatizing education, of course, is probably just as damaging, if not worse.
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Old 06-09-2014, 01:57 PM   #23
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I have a suspicion that this pole is slightly tilted toward Libertarian, but could just be me. http://www.isidewith.com/results/548853173

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I dunno about it being tilted. This is actually oe of the better quizzes I've seen.. I thought you were pretty aligned with the libertarians. When I think about political ideology I think about it in three broad swathes: domestic, economic, and IR. You, like libertarians, are pretty down the center about the economic system. (center meaning Laissez Faire) You are fairly isolationist in terms of IR, and are pretty far "left" when it comes to domestic issues.

(For myself, I've read too much IR literature to be anything but against american hegemony/exceptionalism/imperialism/whatever else you want to call it. I also think the free market is cool and all but I think it devolves into short-termism which makes it difficult for it to have the ability to do much about macro-level problems (such as climate change), until it's a bit too late. Lastly I'm pretty open about what people can do in their personal lives)
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Old 06-09-2014, 05:09 PM   #24
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I mean you are probably right, I was just pointing out the trend, though that probably makes sense that young, internet users are libertarian in leaning. I would feel better about it after seeing a hardcore Republican take the quiz.

Also Hyperme's comment on Education is spot on, it is silly to take away funding from schools that are doing badly. I mean there is such a thing as waste, but taking away seemingly arbitrary blocks of funding isn't the solution.

In response to Libertarianism as a whole I am generally for it, my issue is just where should the line be drawn is hazy in many situations. For example, owning a gun(including assault rifles) doesn't hurt anyone at all, in fact for that matter, owning a tank doesn't hurt anyone. Its the use of it, the same applies to driking laws and driving laws(i mean those independently of course.) Driving a car doesn't inherently injury anybody, but by driving a car you can injury somebody. Therfore, it is perfectly reasonable to allow a 2 year old drive so long as they don't hurt anyone. Same applies to drinking. Libertarianism has a causation issue, it is ok to do anything so long as you don't hurt anyone else, but you don't hurt anyone else till you do something.
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Old 06-10-2014, 06:12 PM   #25
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I still think Libertarianism has some serious downsides, okay, you can pursue what you want as long as you don't hurt anybody, BUT, BUT!! What if a person hurts a dog mindlessly, or if they want to get some meat, they kill the animals in a most painful way because they want to. And as Cigacat says, Where Do You Draw The Line.

And another thing is, there is always badness inside us, we are never 100% good, nor 100% bad, there is a balance.
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