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Old 12-08-2007, 02:12 PM   #1
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Default How do we speed mafia up?

Mafia games are too slow. Not just Candy mafia, but the entire mafia list is taking too long to process. It is taking the best part of 10 months for any single person to host twice. Any suggestions to make it faster?
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Old 12-08-2007, 02:17 PM   #2
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It's more like 6 monthes.

1) Replace lurkers faster!
2) All hosts should visit at least every day.
3) Start the game at night.

I don't see much beyond that.
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Old 12-08-2007, 02:21 PM   #3
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Default Re: How do we speed mafia up?

Why does starting the game at night help?
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Old 12-08-2007, 02:23 PM   #4
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Day one is always so slow because tyheres NO evedince. night always speeds thinghs up. more people acting strangely after a night., it also gives cops a chance to inspect.
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Old 12-08-2007, 02:29 PM   #5
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Default Re: How do we speed mafia up?

And gives the mafia and sks chances to kill, lessening the player count and game length.
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Old 12-08-2007, 02:36 PM   #6
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Yerfdog Re: How do we speed mafia up?

The kill and inspections can be used as evidence.
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Old 12-08-2007, 02:49 PM   #7
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A 10 player limit.
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Old 12-08-2007, 02:51 PM   #8
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Default Re: How do we speed mafia up?

how about day and night can only each last 24 hours unless they have a good reason.
Tell when you are going to be gone.
If you dont want to target anyone at night (or at day if you have a day power except lynching) Then you PM the host saying " I target nobody".
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Old 12-08-2007, 03:11 PM   #9
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Yerfdog Re: How do we speed mafia up?

I agree that games are too long. I don't really see anything else that hasn't been said that will help except maybe hosting two games at the same time. However, a some things will have to happen, to ensure that a person playing in one game doesn't get mixed up with the other:

1. If there are two games playing, you can only play for ONE of them. Also, you can only sign up for one of them, to avoid confusion.

2. Both games must be in separate forums. Past mafia games have been in both Total Mayham, and Non-Hamumu Games, so why not those two? Doing this will help get in the routine to visiting the right forum, while if both games were in the same place, it would be easy to mix up the games.

3. Nobody can really force this, but It's not advised to play one game and watch the other. It could cause more problems.


I can't really think of anything else right now. If this seems possible through some more additions, etc. Then maybe we could try it once, and depending on the results, continue it.
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Old 12-08-2007, 03:21 PM   #10
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Good idea!
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Old 12-08-2007, 03:59 PM   #11
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I say that 16 people is a good number.
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Old 12-08-2007, 04:22 PM   #12
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I say that 16 people is a good number.
Me too. (I had 16 roles planned out for Candy Mafia anyhow)
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Old 12-08-2007, 05:10 PM   #13
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How about if you have been a lurker host * times in a row, then you will have to wait * games before you can host.
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Old 12-08-2007, 05:56 PM   #14
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How about if you have been a lurker host * times in a row, then you will have to wait * games before you can host.
Lurking already counts as a broken game, so their next game goes back 3 slots.
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Old 12-08-2007, 06:01 PM   #15
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oh,ok.
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Old 12-09-2007, 12:05 AM   #16
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Lurking already counts as a broken game, so their next game goes back 3 slots.
Besides when Hammered un-fairly calls my game more then a lurking broken and says I did two broken games when I've only HOSTED any one game in the first place.
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Old 12-09-2007, 12:19 AM   #17
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Default Re: How do we speed mafia up?

I have an extensive list of problems in your game, Justin. It was not my idea to call it broken. I received complaints from many people. The lurking hosting was counted as a second failure in the same game because it was so ridiculously excessive.

The list of people who want to host is very long. If a host needs to be away from his game for an extended period, he should trade places with the host who is to follow him. If something comes up after the game has already started, he should designate an alternate to run the game in his absence and give that alternate enough information to run it. Dragging out your game is not fair to your players or the other people on the host list.
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Old 12-09-2007, 06:27 AM   #18
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Exclamation Re: How do we speed mafia up?

I haven't liked the whole organised list thing from the start. It prevented squabbles, but I just have a real dislike of attempts to control things.

Anyway, more relevantly, mafia gets more broken as time goes on, and I can think of a few possible reasons:
  1. People are getting bored of vanilla mafia, so more unusual roles and game mechanics are tried, which haven't been tested because of the long waiting list.
  2. Some people are getting too good at mafia, so as we get new, less experienced players in, an effort is made to level the field, similarly to #1.
  3. People have to wait so long to host that they want to make their games memorable, and they have forever to invent complicated things that can happen in their game.
  4. There are few good hosts, and their games are few and far between, because of the list.
So, um, I'm getting very ranty, and I didn't intend to be. And most of this is ranting against the list, and the list is possibly a necessary evil. Please, anyone feel free to argue against me and pick holes. I just think mafia is dying.
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Old 12-09-2007, 07:25 AM   #19
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I agree! I think no more signups for mafia hosting. The people currently on the list, then no more mafia.
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Old 12-09-2007, 07:39 AM   #20
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I agree! I think no more signups for mafia hosting. The people currently on the list, then no more mafia.
NO! Mafia must live on!
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