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Old 06-09-2008, 07:50 AM   #1
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Nope, Loony starts on #5 or whichever it is.

And I know you think that the way you pronounce a word is the way it's spelled ("badger"=what I say!!). That's kind of the point of an accent! If you didn't think that was how words were pronounced, you wouldn't pronounce them that way. But the british soften ending R's very significantly, while Americans don't. So "badjer" is the American pronunciation, while "badjah" is the British! Of course, that also depends on which British accent... I don't know how you people fit so many different ways of speaking onto such a tiny island.
It's because they're Brits.
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Old 06-09-2008, 08:56 AM   #2
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Nope, Loony starts on #5 or whichever it is.

And I know you think that the way you pronounce a word is the way it's spelled ("badger"=what I say!!). That's kind of the point of an accent! If you didn't think that was how words were pronounced, you wouldn't pronounce them that way. But the british soften ending R's very significantly, while Americans don't. So "badjer" is the American pronunciation, while "badjah" is the British! Of course, that also depends on which British accent... I don't know how you people fit so many different ways of speaking onto such a tiny island.
Because it used to be very very big...
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Old 06-09-2008, 08:58 AM   #3
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Is that the actual reason? The accents came about from the various colonies and such?
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Old 06-09-2008, 09:00 AM   #4
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I don't know. However, there's a large amount of Poles and other Europeans immigrating, so there'll probably be a lot of different accents. (and languages.)
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But the issue isn't those other countries' accents, it's the various kinds of British ones. Nobody could tell where in California I come from by my accent (they could guess any western state, I would imagine). So how come there's a London accent, and a Yorkshire accent, and so on? And of course as Atkins always laments, the dreaded Norwich accent.
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Old 06-09-2008, 12:18 PM   #6
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It has to do with time. Britain has been invaded by a succession of different tribes over the last several thousand years. Each brought their own slightly different culture and conquered their little corner of the islands. But that isn't the source of the accents. People from one region felt the need to distinguish themselves from neighbouring regions, so if one area said something one way the other area would say it slightly differently and so on. Over the centuries you got a different way of saying practically everything which led to the different dialects. The same phenomenon has led to the various football (i.e. soccer) rivalries in Britain today. You'd think that these were people from different countries with a long history of war the way some people carry on. But no, it's just an extension of neighbourhood rivalries.

The same phenomenon exists in every old country. Newer countries like Canada and the United States haven't had as much time to develop as many distinctive regional accents. But more importantly the invention of mass media: radio, movies and TV, has broadcast the same general accents throughout the continent, so most people tend to talk more or less like TV. The same thing is now happening in Britain. My mother was born in Glasgow and has a distinctive Glaswegian accent. Gordon Ramsay, the infamous chef who is so mean to people in various TV shows, is Scottish too, but he sounds like a generic English person almost all of the time, with a sort of cockney accent (i.e. from London).

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Old 06-09-2008, 03:29 PM   #7
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Well I say!
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Old 06-09-2008, 07:03 PM   #8
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I can do a really good Cockney accent...
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Old 06-10-2008, 06:16 AM   #9
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I think accents are diminishing a bit these days thanks to TV and things. Instead of only hearing the accent from your area, you hear others too, and sort-of develop an average one.
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I think accents are diminishing a bit these days thanks to TV and things. Instead of only hearing the accent from your area, you hear others too, and sort-of develop an average one.
Despite being a Brit, Atkins has a good point. I actually have a cross between a southern accent (due to living in South Carolina for most of my life), a standard American accent (due to living in Indiana for a couple years now), and a tiny hint of a British accent (due to teasing Brits for their accent, tea time, and obsession with toast when I'm bored).
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Old 06-10-2008, 10:55 AM   #11
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I learned how to do a cockney accent mainly from listening to The Monks album "Bad Habits". Then watching London gangster films like Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels reinforced it. That and listening to my Dad.
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I learned a good Cockney accent from listening to Orks in WH40K: DoW.
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The true test is whether you know what 'apples and pears' means, without looking it up. And you do know that only people in and around London speak Cockney, right?
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Old 06-11-2008, 12:24 PM   #14
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Chairs? Stairs?

I don't speak Cockney. I just imitate it. However, one of my multiple personalities might speak it.
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Stairs. Meh, you pretty much pass.

EDIT: 'Ello 'ello 'ello. Cor blimey guv'nor!
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Old 06-11-2008, 02:25 PM   #16
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I have an accent, a mix between a place in mexico and south carolina :?
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Old 06-11-2008, 02:33 PM   #17
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Australians (except good old Aussie blokes! ) don't have an accent AT ALL. We're, like, totally bland, which is kinda cool. I can do an awesome cockney/British accent, though.
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That's because you ARE from Austrailia. I think that we Canadians have no accent, but that's not true from someone elses opinion.
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Actually, I think Canadiens don't have much of an accent, (exepct for the stereotypical eh?) Of course I do live an hour from canada so...
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Old 06-11-2008, 08:50 PM   #20
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Canadian accents vary from region to region. Basically the longer an area has been settled, the more distinctive the accent. So Newfoundland has a strong accent and they seem to get weaker the further West you go. In Ontario you pretty much only notice them in rural areas, like the Ottawa Valley and in the area near Guelph where I lived as a kid. It was a township called Erin, which as you would expect was settled originally by Irish.

I find it bizarre, however, that anyone from Australia would claim there is no Australian accent. Or did I just read it wrong? Are you saying you have no accent but other Australians do? That must cause a mite of confusion!
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