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Old 11-07-2008, 06:16 PM   #1
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Default Mafia A#18: INTERCAL Mafia! DO PLAY.

People playing:

Coolguy
CheeseLord
Mr. Onion
BryanSNK
Roland
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Jamul

Roles:

DON'T GIVE UP:
You're the only no-op in INTERCAL (and cannot be REINSTATED, you shall always be a no-op), and the only vanilla townie in this game. Congratulations. You win with the town.

<-:
You are pronounced "gets", and can find out what somebody's motives are, with the help of an operator CREATE helped you make. You are the only way of calculating, and as such are benevolent.

ABSTAIN FROM:
You're a roleblocker. Once a statement is ABSTAINED FROM, it cannot do anything that night but talk privately over whatever channels it has. At the end of the night, the statement will be REINSTATED. You might seem a bit mean, but you want to help the town by providing conditional execution.

CREATE:
Each night, you can attempt to keep somebody from being DESTROYED or from GIVING UP. Sadly, you don't have that good of a memory, and as such, cannot re-CREATE anybody destroyed earlier than the same night you executed. So basically, you're just a doctor, and you win with the town.

SWAP:
Each night, you can SWAP two statements, and anything that was going to affect one will affect the other instead. You like this town structure that seems to be going on.

STEAL:
You are the one responsible for the crime... but really you were coerced into doing something you knew would end badly, and are perfectly innocent. In fact, you're helpful under normal conditions, being a kind and friendly agent of destructively copying stuff over the network. Unfortunately, <- can't get over the incident, and sees you as guilty.

DESTROY:
Each night, you can choose a statement, and DESTROY it. That is, when your buddy GIVE UP isn't working, which is every other night. You want to take over the world... or at least the internet.

GIVE UP:
Each night, you can choose a statement, and terminate it. Dead, gone, an ex-statement, etcetera, etcetera. That is, when your buddy DESTROY isn't working, which is every other other night. You want the same thing he does, and that is to take over the world.

I shall distribute... now.
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Old 11-07-2008, 06:37 PM   #2
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Default Re: Mafia A#18: INTERCAL Mafia! DO PLAY.

Alright roles are distributed. The programmers are still unaware that your cage has been stolen, so you're free to run amok. In other words, it is night.
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Old 11-11-2008, 03:15 AM   #3
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Default Re: Mafia A#18: INTERCAL Mafia! DO PLAY.

Alright, I've received a complaint in PM about the night taking so long, so deadline. If a certain person's PM isn't in by when I wake up the day after tomorrow, he doesn't get to make a night action. Also, thread open for slight discussion. What do you want me to do?
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Old 11-11-2008, 07:48 AM   #4
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Default Re: Mafia A#18: INTERCAL Mafia! DO PLAY.

Set a much much shorter deadline!

Detail: night has gone on for 4 days, and you're adding 2 more as a deadline. No reason why night should ever be more than 48 hours in the first place.
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Old 11-11-2008, 08:08 AM   #5
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Default Re: Mafia A#18: INTERCAL Mafia! DO PLAY.

Error:
End night now.
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Old 11-11-2008, 11:35 AM   #6
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Default Re: Mafia A#18: INTERCAL Mafia! DO PLAY.

Alright... what I was doing was a 24 hour plus whenever I wake up deadline. Sorry about that. (heh, I actually got the PM just now while writing this post) You wake up to find both Mr. Onion and CheeseLord in a state of flux due to something I most certainly did not expect.... but because you observed it, only one died, and it was... CheeseLord!

CheeseLord was SWAP, and was half the reason for this paradoxical mess. The other reason is left as an excercise to the reader.

Edit: Yes, that means it's day. 7 people, therefore 4 votes to lynch.
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Old 11-11-2008, 11:44 AM   #7
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Default Re: Mafia A#18: INTERCAL Mafia! DO PLAY.

I suspect everyone who was playing in Kingmaker Mafia.
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Old 11-11-2008, 11:48 AM   #8
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Default Re: Mafia A#18: INTERCAL Mafia! DO PLAY.

The only thing I can think is that it involves roleblocking. Here's my theory: Cheeselord swapped with Mr. Onion. Mr. Onion was roleblocked. The roleblock should've affected Cheeselord, but of course if you roleblock a swapper, that undoes the swap. But if you undo the swap, then the roleblock wouldn't be on the swapper in the first place, but on his swappee. So indeed, a paradox.

I suspect this makes Mr.Onion the murderer as well. It would still be a paradox even if he wasn't, but besides the fact that Mr.Onion is always mafia (as the last game further proved!), it heightens the paradoxicality. Was he roleblocked or not? Was Cheeselord or not? There is no real solution.
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Old 11-11-2008, 11:56 AM   #9
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Default Re: Mafia A#18: INTERCAL Mafia! DO PLAY.

Lemme clue you in a little on what I did... Quantum INTERCAL, which takes the form of DO <statement> WHILE NOT <statement>ING IT/THEM.
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Old 11-11-2008, 12:00 PM   #10
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Default Re: Mafia A#18: INTERCAL Mafia! DO PLAY.

Does that mean anything to anybody here?
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Old 11-11-2008, 12:00 PM   #11
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Default Re: Mafia A#18: INTERCAL Mafia! DO PLAY.

I will claim Roleblocker- I was the one who blocked Onion last night, and was told that a paradox happened.
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Old 11-11-2008, 12:11 PM   #12
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Default Re: Mafia A#18: INTERCAL Mafia! DO PLAY.

Okay, let's everybody just calm down. Here's what we're going to do.

VOTE: COOLGUY
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Old 11-11-2008, 12:25 PM   #13
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Default Re: Mafia A#18: INTERCAL Mafia! DO PLAY.

Why??
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Old 11-11-2008, 01:21 PM   #14
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Default Re: Mafia A#18: INTERCAL Mafia! DO PLAY.

I am not programmed to be able to calm down...so how can I calm down and vote for this coolguy!??
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Old 11-11-2008, 09:30 PM   #15
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Default Re: Mafia A#18: INTERCAL Mafia! DO PLAY.

As much as I dislike doing it this way, we could mass-claim and prove almost half the players good, and then random-lynch from the folks who claim roles that somebody else is also claiming.

That's the big issue with games where all of the roles are different and we know which are evil; I'm pretty sure there was an older game that made the same mistake.
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Old 11-11-2008, 09:36 PM   #16
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I'm pretty sure Regen and Mr. O are the evil ones... unless Regen has some explanation for voting for the first person to claim a perfectly valid townie role!
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Old 11-11-2008, 09:53 PM   #17
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I'm going to VOTE: Mr Onion until he claims... I want to find out if his night action succeeded last night.

And at this point I think Regen is just being Regen, Jamul.
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Old 11-12-2008, 05:05 AM   #18
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As much as I dislike doing it this way, we could mass-claim and prove almost half the players good, and then random-lynch from the folks who claim roles that somebody else is also claiming.

That's the big issue with games where all of the roles are different and we know which are evil; I'm pretty sure there was an older game that made the same mistake.
Uh... ah well, so as not to change the game in the middle and thus make it broken... I would advise against doing so for two reasons: One, I shall not award any prizes if you do something that cheap, and two, that just makes it no fun.

Edit: Oh by the way, Coolguy has ONE vote, from Regen, and Mr. Onion has I vote, from Coolguy.
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unless Regen has some explanation for voting for the first person to claim a perfectly valid townie role!
That's exactly why I voted him.
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Old 11-12-2008, 07:11 AM   #20
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With a reply like that from Regen...the only logical thing to do would be to...

Vote: AtkinsSJ

because of his mind control powers over Mr. Onion forcing Regen to vote for Coolguy while Coolguy in return votes for Mr. Onion. I mean...it all makes sense when you really think about how the game has been played out so far.
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