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Old 11-11-2009, 07:35 AM   #1
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I was reading about the execution of the DC sniper, and it got me thinking about the death penalty. Are you for it, or against it? Explain why, please.
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Old 11-11-2009, 09:43 AM   #2
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hmm, well i would say it depends, something like genocide/seriall killing would deffinately deserve it, seeing as they've killed more than one person, and obviously dont regret the first kill. but i'm not so sure its the way to go for murder, i personally think some long jailtime could help them out, but as i said, im pretty sure someone who's gone on a killing spree is a little past helping.
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Old 11-11-2009, 04:17 PM   #3
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Anyways... I don't think that people should be killed for crimes they committed. Why waste another life?

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Old 11-11-2009, 07:44 PM   #4
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I think its a two-edged sword.

There are some criminals in this world that are too dangerous to let live, or are too much of an escape risk to justify keeping them in prison. For these, the death penalty is probaly needed.

The problem is that occasonally, the penalty fails, and according the law, the government cannot execute somebody twice for the same thing. So if we have a deadly serial killer that survives the death penalty, leading to his release, then what do we do?
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No, sir, not for it. Killing is wrong no matter who does it, whether it be a man with a knife or a paid executioner.
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The problem is that occasonally, the penalty fails, and according the law, the government cannot execute somebody twice for the same thing. So if we have a deadly serial killer that survives the death penalty, leading to his release, then what do we do?
That's an urban legend. When an execution fails, they immediately try again.
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Old 11-12-2009, 10:11 AM   #7
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That's an urban legend. When an execution fails, they immediately try again.
Also, last time I checked, it's physically impossible for a lethal injection to fail...
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Old 11-12-2009, 11:21 AM   #8
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The death penalty can't fail. They keep trying 'till the sentensed. is dead.

"Hung from a rope until death"

Bold is the key.

Also, death for a certain type of criminals! Not murderers, but a certain type that need to be seperated from the other prisoners for their own safety. It saves money. And lives.
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Old 11-12-2009, 03:26 PM   #9
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Also, last time I checked, it's physically impossible for a lethal injection to fail...
Rommell Broom survived a lethal injection attempt in Ohio last September. (September 15, I believe)

There was somebody who survived the electric chair also, I believe, and a case for a second execution attempt for him caused him to be killed a year later. Just how much opportunity is there to commit a crime in one year?
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Old 11-12-2009, 04:22 PM   #10
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I've heard of cases where the anesthetic failed and the person receiving the lethal injection died quite painfully, but no cases where the drugs have failed to kill the person at all. Regardless, the massive percentage of success in execution from lethal injection warrants further usage of the method.

More on topic, I think that the death penalty is much better than life imprisonment because the worst of criminals should be completely eliminated rather than placed in a facility for the rest of their lives, only to leave once they're dead and have wasted other people's money.
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Old 11-12-2009, 05:02 PM   #11
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Only on the worst offenders, such as mass murderers, people who have attempted to kill important leaders (a president, a prime minister), or other such nasties should get sentenced to death. After all, if Hitler hadn't killed himself, would you have let him off easy?

I prefer to refer to the death penalty as "life in front of the firing squad".*

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Old 11-12-2009, 05:45 PM   #12
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After all, if Hitler hadn't killed himself, would you have let him off easy?
Indeed.
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Old 11-12-2009, 06:37 PM   #13
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http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/09...y5327847.shtml

An article about the lethal injection failing, but only because they couldn't find a vein to use.
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Old 11-12-2009, 08:59 PM   #14
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Capital Punishment has Pros and Cons. It severely deters people from committing the crime where Capital Punishment is the punishment, but people could be framed, etc. If you later find out someone wasn't guilty, there's no way to just bring them back, as you would if they were just in jail.
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Old 11-13-2009, 05:44 AM   #15
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It severely deters people from committing the crime where Capital Punishment is the punishment,
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No citation is needed - obviously people who are executed can never commit another crime. It may also have some effect on people who have not committed a capital crime, but it is not easy to prove as people who consider committing a serious crime and decide against it tend not to report this.

Personally, I feel that if you must execute people for their crimes, that punishment should be reserved for those caught in the act and arrested at the scene, so that there is no possibility of executing the wrong person. The crime should be one that vastly exceeds others in severity and intent.

Also if your best argument includes keeping down costs, shame on you!
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It may also have some effect on people who have not committed a capital crime, but it is not easy to prove as people who consider committing a serious crime and decide against it tend not to report this.
That was the bit I wanted a citation for.
(or maybe the crime rate goes down after you implement capital punishment, instead of having to ask people who decided against it...)
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I don't have citation, but I'm sure you could find it if you really wanted too. Anyway, it makes sense. If you know that the punishment of the crime is death, you might rethink committing it.
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I don't have citation, but I'm sure you could find it if you really wanted too. Anyway, it makes sense. If you know that the punishment of the crime is death, you might rethink committing it.
But if you are motivated enough to kill many people, chances are you'll still be motivated regardless of the punishment.
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For some people, yes, it won't make a difference. But a lot of people who aren't motivated as much will want to rethink it.
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