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Old 11-12-2014, 01:51 AM   #1
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http://new.livestream.com/accounts/3...tuses/67745264

This is a huge discovery!
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Old 11-12-2014, 08:40 AM   #2
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This is such a cool livestream! Confirmation of touchdown in a couple minutes.
EDIT: Philae has touched down and harpooned and so forth
EDIT2: OK so harpoons less expected than before, but hey. Still solid.
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Old 11-12-2014, 04:33 PM   #3
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This is such a cool livestream! Confirmation of touchdown in a couple minutes.
EDIT: Philae has touched down and harpooned and so forth
EDIT2: OK so harpoons less expected than before, but hey. Still solid.
They didn't really show a live feed from the lander... Kept on waiting to see it...

By the way, why do they keep calling it a comet? I mean, it's certainly much bigger then a comet, and it has no tail. It's sort of like an asteroid, but more like a planetoid. Some of the surfaces look really smooth, I think I identified some cliffs and a strange object.

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Old 11-12-2014, 08:21 PM   #4
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Agreed, seamonkey. Its so cool what we can do with modern day technology!
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Old 11-12-2014, 08:53 PM   #5
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Agreed, seamonkey. Its so cool what we can do with modern day technology!
We have the technology, but we are not really getting anywhere, science seems to be stuck.

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Old 11-12-2014, 10:48 PM   #6
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They didn't really show a live feed from the lander... Kept on waiting to see it...

By the way, why do they keep calling it a comet? I mean, it's certainly much bigger then a comet, and it has no tail. It's sort of like an asteroid, but more like a planetoid. Some of the surfaces look really smooth, I think I identified some cliffs and a strange object.

The heck!
It's definitely a comet. Comets only gain tails when they are close to the sun/hot. Right now the comet is far enough away/cold enough that there isn't really a tail.

As for size it's about average. You also aren't ever going to see a live feed: I'm 99.9% sure there isn't a video camera, because that is a huge amount of data to send, and a big power drain. Also keep in mind all tech on the lander is ten years old. Also 30 minute delay, which is like half a billion km. (Mars is different in that it's closer, much newer tech, and battery life is nowhere near as important. )
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Old 11-18-2014, 05:48 PM   #7
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Oh come on guys, do you really believe everything they say? It's not a comet, it's definitely a planetoid of some kind, or probably a chunk which came off a planet, have a look over at one source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...-set-data.html

And what about the signal which came from it? http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2014/11...singing-comet/

It's very piercing...
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Old 11-19-2014, 05:36 AM   #8
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Oh come on guys, do you really believe everything they say? It's not a comet, it's definitely a planetoid of some kind, or probably a chunk which came off a planet, have a look over at one source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...-set-data.html

And what about the signal which came from it? http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2014/11...singing-comet/

It's very piercing...
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    a celestial object consisting of a nucleus of ice and dust and, when near the sun, a ‘tail’ of gas and dust particles pointing away from the sun.


Even if your right, your wrong. And oscillations in its magnetic field is interesting for sure, but not Illuminati controversy whatever your implying.
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Old 11-19-2014, 07:15 AM   #9
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Oh come on guys, do you really believe everything they say? It's not a comet, it's definitely a planetoid of some kind, or probably a chunk which came off a planet, have a look over at one source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...-set-data.html
Considering 'they' are experts who have dedicated their life to this kind of stuff, yes, I do believe them. Because I know enough to know what I don't know.

Also the Daily Mail is literally the opposite of a credible source.

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And what about the signal which came from it? http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2014/11...singing-comet/

It's very piercing...
The 'signal' is magnetic weirdness. It is massively unlikely that it carries any kind of meaning. While explaining electromagnetism is hard, creating a field of it is fairly simple.
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Oh come on guys, do you really believe everything they say? It's not a comet, it's definitely a planetoid of some kind, or probably a chunk which came off a planet, have a look over at one source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...-set-data.html

And what about the signal which came from it? http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2014/11...singing-comet/

It's very piercing...
I will generally believe the experts on things like this. It's generally wise when the issue at hand is explicitly science.
Also does anyone actually say that this isn't a comet? Especially anyone who is an actual scientist? Even the Daily Mail article thinks it's a comet.
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Old 11-19-2014, 04:41 PM   #11
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It's not a comet. -.- There could be a possibility that the news journalists aren't thinking much about it, and when the news immediately got out about a space body projecting a signal and a probe coming to land on it, the minute they heard the word comet, they implemented it immediately into their articles. Of course they do some science but sometimes people can be good at doing the hard things, and average at doing what might seem to be an easy case of identifying what type of solar body it is.

Also what do you mean the opposite of a credible source?

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Old 11-19-2014, 11:13 PM   #12
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It is a comet, in the sense that it moves in an elongated ellipse around a star. Comets generally emit heavy dust or ice tails near their perihelion, or closest point to the sun. During the Philae landing, the comet was likely at a far distance from the sun, although I can't find a source that will confirm this. Regardless, the rock is a comet due to its irregular shape, high velocity, and independent, wide elliptical orbit around the sun. Also possible is that the comet is extinct or near-extinct. Comets which have passed the sun many times may have lost most of their volatile dust and ice, resulting in smaller tails, according to wikipedia. They state a dying comet may come to resemble an asteroid after a period of time. Other sources state the closing gap between the definition of a comet and asteroid. Hope this helped.

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Old 11-20-2014, 12:16 AM   #13
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It is a comet, in the sense that it moves in an elongated ellipse around a star. Comets generally emit heavy dust or ice tails near their perihelion, or closest point to the sun. During the Philae landing, the comet was likely at a far distance from the sun, although I can't find a source that will confirm this. Regardless, the rock is a comet due to its irregular shape, high velocity, and independent, wide elliptical orbit around the sun. Also possible is that the comet is extinct or near-extinct. Comets which have passed the sun many times may have lost most of their volatile dust and ice, resulting in smaller tails, according to wikipedia. They state a dying comet may come to resemble an asteroid after a period of time. Other sources state the closing gap between the definition of a comet and asteroid. Hope this helped.
Hmm, I could agree on that. But there is still the mystery of the signal.
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Calling it a signal is misleading, because its not. Its unexpected and to this point unexplained, but calling it a signal suggests that it was sent by someone, which at this point there is no evidence for. I expect that as scientists do more research and more data is made available patterns will be established and eventually we will reach a conclusive proof and explanation for what causes the oscillations.
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Calling it a signal is misleading, because its not. Its unexpected and to this point unexplained, but calling it a signal suggests that it was sent by someone, which at this point there is no evidence for. I expect that as scientists do more research and more data is made available patterns will be established and eventually we will reach a conclusive proof and explanation for what causes the oscillations.
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I cee what you did there
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